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Could a BMW Be Working on a F 850 RS?

Please Let This be the Mid-Size Sport Tourer We Deserve

In a recent BMW brochure for 2019 models, there was a mention of an F 850 RS sport touring machine. It would seem that BMW will expand its use of the 850 engine to other models. MoreBikes spotted the text in the brochure and that got the rumor mill spinning.

BMW should expand the 850 and make as many versions of the current bike utilizing that engine as possible. Why not? MoreBikes reported that it previously spotted BMW testing an F 850 XR/GT, so it would seem that the company is already experimenting with new models.

There’s no word yet from BMW as to whether or not these rumors have any validity. It would seem that if it’s in the brochure then it’s a done deal, right? Well, not necessarily. MoreBikes points out that it could just be a typo in the brochure. However, that strikes me is unlikely. Maybe it’s just wishful thinking, but I would hope BMW would spot that kind of stuff before the literature was sent out.

Even if it is just a typo, that doesn’t mean BMW won’t make the model. As we said above, there are indicators that BMW is working on new 850s, and a sport touring machine actually makes a lot of sense. BMW also made the 9Cento concept (pictured above), that was the precursor to the F 850 XR/GT MoreBikes mentions. 

No matter what you think is true, it’s a safe bet that BMW is working on something here. There’s a little too much evidence to suggest otherwise. MoreBikes reached out to BMW, but all the company said was that it doesn’t comment on future products. That’s not a no on the bike, right?

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Could BMW Be Working on a Hybrid Boxer Engine?

More Hybrid Bikes Are Coming

If you thought motorcycles were safe from hybrid technology, you were wrong. A new patent filing by BMW spotted by the two-wheeled sleuths at Motorcycle.com revealed the company might be working on a hybrid boxer engine for a motorcycle. Judging by the patent drawings it’s a bit of a stretch. The drawings are pretty basic and it’s unclear what exactly is going on, but Motorcycle.com gives some insights.

Apparently, the patent places the electric motor with the boxer engine. Together, both the gasoline power and electric power turn the rear wheel of the bike. According to Motorcycle.com, the key to this patent is the adaptor that allows the electric motor to work with the gasoline one.

The adapter has a planetary gear system and connects the two power sources. From there, power from the engine and electric motor go through a regular clutch and transmission. The electric motor works as the starter motor. It can also work as a generator to provide electric power to the various motorcycle systems.

A Hybrid Could be Awesome

One of the interesting things about the adapter that Motorcycle.com points out is that it allows BMW to have a kind of modular powertrain. This means you could swap in a different electric motor if you wanted. This would mean BMW could pop in a new electric motor and dramatically increase the motorcycle’s power output.

The patent currently says the electric motor could provide anywhere from 20 percent of the engine’s maximum torque to 200 percent depending on the motor. The possibilities here are awesome. BMW could potentially smooth out the powerband by torque filling as supercars do. Basically, the electric motor would add power during times the gasoline engine experiences interruptions, like with gear changes. This would make for buttery smooth operation, which would be beneficial on the road and off.

I honestly can’t make heads nor tails of the patent drawings, and they’re pretty bare bones. BMW has experimented with hybrid technology before, so it’s not a huge surprise they’re playing around with this kind of tech, especially with every bike manufacturer working on electrified motorcycles in some capacity.

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BMW Posts Eight Years In a Row of Sales Increases

Let the BMW Good Times Roll

BMW is on a sales increases run that’s years long. The company posted an annual sales increase for the eighth straight year.

The company saw an uptick in sales of 0.9 percent for 2018. That brings BMW’s annual total of motorcycles sold to a strong 165,566. That’s the sales for both the brand’s motorcycles and maxi scooters. There are other companies that sell way more units, but eight straight years of increases for BMW is quite impressive.

BMW Motorrad has a goal of selling 200,000 bikes by 2020. While that’s not far away, the long line of consecutive annual sales increases bodes well. However, the 0.9 percent increase only adds about 1,400 models to the BMW annual sales figure. If that rate of increase continues, the company will come up short of its 200,000-unit goal in 2020.

All Part of the Plan

Still, BMW seems pleased with these results, and why shouldn’t it be? Eight straight years of increases is fantastic. Dr. Markus Schramm, Head of BMW Motorrad, thanked the customers in the press release and said he thinks it’s on track.

Schramm said that the company’s strategy is taking effect and that he expects further sales increases in the future.

“We will expand our product range with emotional and innovative new products in 2019, too. We will also be increasing our involvement in motorsport significantly,” said Schramm.

European and North American sales led the way. BMW also noted it made significant headway in China. It sold around 7,500 motorcycles in China and saw a growth rate of over 35 percent.

BMW R 1200 GS

The company also saw similar gains in Brazil. India is another market BMW is focusing on. Though the sales weren’t quite as impressive there, there’s still growth and plenty of room to expand in that market.

With all the company is doing to expand its reach, I could see it achieving its sales goal in 2020. Even if it comes up a bit short, it will likely continue to see growth overall, which is never a bad thing.

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BMW Showcases Riderless BMW R 1200 GS at CES

Rider? It Don’t Need No Stinking Rider

I thought the point of motorcycles was to ride them. Maybe I was wrong. In all seriousness, though, BMW has a motorcycle at the Consumer Electronics Show right now that operates without a rider. It’s a BMW R 1200 GS, and it doesn’t need your hulking mass of flesh on it to ride off into the sunset.

The demonstrations of the BMW riderless bike showcase how the bike can take off, accelerate, corner, slow down and stop without falling over. The videos on the company’s Twitter page are pretty impressive.

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It’s just a guy with a little remote and a BMW R 1200 GS riding around in circles. It reminds me of the RC motorcycle I had when I was growing up, only that was a Harley. Anyway, the bike is BMW’s latest move in the world of mobility that seems to have all motorcycle manufacturers in a tizzy.

If you’re anywhere near the Las Vegas Convention Center today, consider stopping by to see one of BMW’s technicians make the bike do some cool loops around the parking lot.

Why Build It?

As I said above, the bike is the latest in BMW’s quest for the ultimate mobility vehicle. The bike’s technology will make future motorcycles and mobility solutions safe and less user intensive.

BMW says the tech will help future products “have a higher level of connectivity to thrive in the future mobility environment.” That sounds fine. However, I wonder how that will impact motorcycles in the future.

BMW autonomous R 1200 GS
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If the tech is used to make motorcycles safe but still allow me to ride the bike myself, I’m all for it. With that said, I don’t foresee a situation where I’d be interested in letting the bike do everything for me. If I want a self-driving vehicle, I’ll buy a car. The point of a motorcycle is to be in the moment and really be riding the machine.

It will be interesting to see how this sort of technology develops in the future. The self-riding tech has some excellent implications from a safety standpoint. It could help avoid rider-caused issues, but it’s unclear where this sort of thing will lead to. Needless to say, I have mixed feelings about it, and a riderless bike just looks eery.

 

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Motorcycle News Roundup: Week of 12/16

This week has been full of interesting motorcycle news from a customized 180hp Kawasaki GPz750 Turbo to Triumph Factory Custom bikes and rumors of a new Rocket III power cruiser. We’ve covered most of it and rounded up the news that somehow slipped through the cracks.
Check out all of this week’s top stories in the video roundup below.

1. Triumph Scrambler 1200 Pricing Announced

Triumph’s new Scrambler 1200 has a lot of people scrambling for their pocketbooks now that pricing has been announced. The least expensive model will run you $14,000.

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2. Customized 1984 Kawasaki GPz750 Turbo Makes 180 Horsepower

If you want a seriously fast motorcycle with a lot of horsepowers, but can’t stand new bikes, this is the deal for you. Check out the 1984 Kawasaki GPz750 Turbo that’s for sale by owner.

3. Fly Free Smart Motorcycles Brings Reto Styling and Electric Power

Electric bikes don’t have to look weird. Fly Free Smart Motorcycles proves that with its Smart Classic and Smart Desert retro styled bikes. Too, bad the power plants leave something to be desired.

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4. 2019 Yamaha YZF-R1 GYTR 20th Anniversary Unveiled

Yamaha celebrates the 20-year anniversary of the debut of its YZF-R1 with a special edition called the GYTR. It comes with special racing equipment and graphics. Too bad they’re all spoken for.

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5. Rolling Thunder Will Roll One Last Time in Washington D.C.

The biker club Rolling Thunder will have its annual ride in the nation’s capital to support the troops one last time. Funding has become an issue. The group will still do rides at locations across the country.

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6. 2019 KTM 450 SX-F Factory Edition Revealed

If you were hoping to buy a race-ready motocross bike from KTM in 2019, your prayers have been answered. THe 450 SX-F Factory Edition is the most advanced motocross bike from the company yet.

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7. Indian Motorcycle Files Trademark for Indian Raven

Indian may have a new bike in the works called the Raven. The company trademarked the name recently, and that has our heads spinning as to what the bike could be.

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8. Yoshimura Exhaust System Introduced for 2019 Kawasaki ZX-6R

Is the new 2019 Kawasaki ZX-6R you’re going to buy just not special enough? Buy a new Yoshimura exhaust System and FE eliminator kit and you’ll be the coolest bro on the block.

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9. Triumph Thruxton R TFC Coming in January

Triumph will debut a Thruxton R TFC (Triumph Factory Custom) in January of 2019. It’s a special version of the motorcycle with all kinds of new equipment and only 750 models will be sold.

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10. Could a Triumph Factory Custom Rocket III be Coming?

The Triumph Rocket III will receive a complete overhaul soon. When it does, Triumph may build a TFC model. An image of the upcoming bike was leaked after a recent dealer meeting.

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11. BMW’s Head of Design Discusses the Future of Motorcycle Design

BMW’s future could get interesting. The company’s Head of Design discussed the company’s design moves with the new S1000RR and the possibilities that come with electric bikes. I have a feeling things are going to get weird.

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BMW’s Head of Design Discusses the Future of Motorcycle Design

A Design Evolution Is Coming

Edgar Heinrich, BMW Head of Design, discussed how BMW’s new S1000RR changed and how electric bikes could change the future of motorcycle design in a recent interview. Motorcycle News talked with Heinrich, and he had some pretty interesting things to say.

His focus began on the new S1000RR. He first discussed how it lost its asymmetrical headlights. The old S1000RR had kind of a Forrest Whitaker quality to its gaze. It had one roundish headlight and one more angular. Heinrich said that his team thought about keeping the look. However, with the new lighting technology on the 2019 S1000RR, there was no need.

“We could have made the LED components asymmetric, but it would have been stupid. We don’t do design for the sake of it,” Heinrich said.

That’s a stance on the design I can get behind. While old headlight design was kind of a trademark for the bike, if there’s no reason to keep it, then BMW did the right thing.

Electric Motorcycles Open Design Possibilities

BMW C Evolution

It’s unclear what direction BMW will take with its upcoming electric motorcycles. You can bet they won’t look much like the current gas-powered models, though. Heinrich said electric bikes open up a lot of new doors from a design standpoint. He and his team can do an all-new design language. He seemed somewhat excited by the possibilities.

“If you look at bikes from 50 or 60 years ago, you find hundreds of components that were expertly engineered for tiny little jobs and every bike was different,” he told Motorcycle News. “Nowadays everything is streamlined, the parts are all the same: the same forks, wheels etc. It is very sophisticated and fast but it gives a very poor feeling in the gut.”

It’s cool that BMW will be trying new things with its electric motorcycles, but I have a feeling that means the company’s future bikes will look weird. The discussion about not doing design for the sake of it is encouraging, but that’s no indication of what future bikes will actually look like.

Hopefully, Heinrich and the rest of the BMW team can come up with some innovative and attractive designs as electric bikes become a bigger part of BMW’s lineup.

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2019 BMW F850GS Rallye – First Ride, First Impressions Review

The Breakdown

The 2019 F750GS and F850GS are BMW Motorrad’s new, anxiously awaited, but behind schedule new release models replacing the original F650 and F700/F800 series motorcycles.

The somewhat larger (853cc vice 798cc) engine with revised crankshaft offset, timing and balancing changes now produces 95Hp vice 85 and torque is 92Nm vice 83; the changes provide a far stronger and responsive motor.

While weight is up, chassis, suspension, and component changes make for a far more stable machine compared to the F800 motorcycles – progress is good.

Overall First Impressions

Pros

  • Motor – “strong like bull”, arm pulling power across the band
  • Buzzing/vibration virtually non-existent
  • Chassis/suspension/component changes form a very stable well-handling machine
  • 21in front wheel stable at all speeds/surfaces
  • LED headlights and tail/brake lights
  • Aluminum cross-spoke rims, tubeless
  • Electronic packages enhance the experience
  • Familiar size, layout, and function regarding current F-series motorcycles
  • Slimming lines, narrow rider area and back subframe facilitating accessory mounting

Cons

  • Heavier, gain mitigated through chassis, suspension and component changes
  • Factory packages and equipment options add significantly to the base price
  • Centre mount fuel cell only 15L (incl reserve)
  • Non-adjustable windscreen
  • Rallye variant should have more endure bit-n-pieces as standard equipment
  • Some low-rpm remapping needed

A Dilemma in the Making

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye and 2018 Triumph Tiger 800Xca

What we have here is an evolving but acknowledged dilemma… created knowingly in owning many Beemers of all sizes over many years, including an original F 800 GS and recently a treasured F 800 GSA that was originally slated as a trade for a new F 850 GS or GSA; the former now seriously overdue and the latter becoming a serious contender given timelines.

In the interim, a 2018 Triumph Tiger 800Xca fills the mid-displacement (small GS) gap quite nicely; in fact, it’s causing the dilemma. The Tiger is one darn fine motorcycle and thoughts of retaining it while still investing in an F 850 are gaining traction…

Acknowledging & Leveraging a Relationship

An early opportunity is just that and one not to be left on the table. As a volunteer Ride Lead for the BMW Demo Ride Days I was discussing the plans for the upcoming second Ottawa Motorrad event with the Sales Manager, during which it became apparent that an opportunity to undertake a First Ride review of the 2019 BMW F 850 GS could become reality; can we say ‘thank you’.

The Walkaround – First Impressions Do Count

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye full view

The 2019 BMW F850GS in Rallye livery – Light White and Lupin Blue scheme stands out and provides a very good visual first impression, not diminished after the first walk around and then further inspection of the externals.

It is hard to miss the specific GS Rallye highlights including the radiator trim and cross-spoked gold rims, and especially for F-series owners, the (now) right-side exhaust and left-side chain drive.

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye gold trimmed tires

Without getting into the nitty-gritty, such as where all the parts are from or, where its assembled, this first contact (including the distinctive LED running light shaping), first leg over, first start-up and first ride, is all (very) good.

Getting used to not having the fuel cell under the seat is likely to be one of the most persistent visual observations owners of previous F-series machines will have – appreciating the pros and cons of such an arrangement.

Smooth Styling – Slimming Lines

In not (totally) buying into all the BMW Motorrad marketing hype about the ‘why’ in moving the fuel cell back to what some see as the traditional location in front of the rider, one must acknowledge that it does result in an overall slimming of lines and fit from the rider’s placement to the back of the motorcycle.

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye fuel tank in front

There is still a fair amount of plastic, but BMW Motorrad’s continuing design and styling exercises see the modular pieces become more aesthetically pleasing and for the most part, easier to work with.

And the streamlined plastic and flowing lines do contribute to an overall visual of a lighter, leaner machine, which is good as both the 2019 F850GS and its almost identical sibling the F750GS have put on a few kgs.

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye closeup of design and trim

Wheels, Brakes, & Suspension

The F850GS Rallye variant features gold rim aluminum cross spoke wheels. The front is 21 x 2.15 shod with a 90/90 tire while the rear is 17 x 4.25 and carries a 150.70 R17 tire. And, to the joy of many, tires can now be run tubeless.

Up front is found a 43mm USD fork with 8.0 in of travel, with the more sensitive exposed parts protected from obstacles and low-flying things by full fender leg covers.

At the back, the standard configuration rear shock in bright red has 8.6 in of travel. BMW electronic suspension adjustment or ESA equipped models are easy to spot – the gold colored remote reservoir component is fitted inside a protective plastic frame mounted on the left subframe.

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye rear view of red suspension and tire

Both the 750 and 850 models feature dual 305 mm front brake rotors with two-piston floating calipers; a single 265 mm rear disc with a single caliper is used at the rear wheel.

The enduro-style brake lever is familiar – readily accessed and providing good modulation of the rear stopper. Some owners will prefer the optionally adjustable assembly with its spring-loaded section that flips up or down depending on what type of access/reach is desired.

This adjustable component was standard on the original F800GSA and I had hoped it might have been migrated as a standard piece… ah well.

Carries Its Weight (Increase) Well

Rolling the F 850 GS around in the parking lot didn’t bring any surprises, in fact, it seems lighter than my previous F 800 GS machines, especially the recently departed 2014 F 800 GSA that was the heaviest due to its extra fuel load carried mid-ships and a couple of OEM accessories.

With its up-front 15L fuel cell at least 90% capacity, the F 850 GS’s road-ready weight is listed as 229 kg or 505 lbs (up from 217 kg or 478 lbs) for an identified increase of 12 kgs or 26.5 lbs over the base 2017 F 800 GS model.

But like the original F650/700/800 series models, the new F 850 GS and the F 750 GS carry their weight extremely well; discernable weight gain is mitigated once the wheels start turning and the ride by wire throttle exercised.

Engine/Drivetrain Overview

A quick summary of the power plant: an increase from 798cc to 853cc for the vertical two-cylinder vertical four stroke motor featuring four valves per cylinder, DOHC and dry sump lubrication.

Claimed output for the F850GS is 70kW or 95hp at 8250rpm (up from 85hp at 7500rpm); maximum torque is listed as 92 Nm at 6250rpm (up from 83 Nm at 5750rpm)

Another major engine change that can be felt and heard, features a crankshaft journal offset of 90 degrees and firing intervals of 270/450 degrees. This results in a uniquely powerful sound immediately distinguishable from earlier F-series machines (0-degree crankshaft journal and 360-degree firing order).

Longtime F-series owners will be pleased to note that higher rpm buzz issues prevalent on so many earlier F-series models is now, at least from my initial F750/850GS rides, a thing of the past; mitigated by using two counterbalance shafts (vice the original crankshaft/counter-weight layout).

The combination of these major changes results in an extremely strong and extremely smooth-running engine throughout the (used) rpm range and of course, the previously mentioned robust engine sound.

At 416 W (nominal power), the alternator hasn’t been beefed up, something I thought might have happened as part of the new powerplant. The battery is a 10 Ah maintenance free unit.

Other notable features are

  • BMW-M digital engine management
  • E-Gas (ride by wire)
  • regulated catalytic converter
  • a new stainless-steel exhaust system
  • 6-gear claw gearbox integrated into the engine casing (similar to the approach used with the new R 1250 motors)
  • secondary drive using an endless Z-ring chain with rear hub cushion damper
  • mechanical clutch with anti-hopping function and,
  • full Euro-4 emissions standard compliance.

The First Ride

After installing my BMW Navigator VI into the open navigation preparation cradle mounted on the handlebar clamps it was time to quit ‘burning late-summer daylight’ and get on (and off) the road to make the most of this time-limited opportunity.

At 188 cm (6 ft, 2 in+) and an 86.3cm (34 in) inseam, putting a leg over the F 850 GS with the regular seat (860mm, step length 1910mm) felt familiar – the well-used BMW Santiago boots are flat on the ground.

Leveraging the GS up from the too-tall (for a purpose) side-stand isn’t hard, but a little extra effort is involved – the first sign of that extra/re-located weight.

The Keyless Ride button brings the F 850 GS Rallye to life with a familiar initial bark. But after this, it is a whole new ballgame and any notion that this is the same in-line vertical twin of yore is immediately dispelled as the GS settles into a lump-lump big-V-twin sounding idle, admittedly helped in part by the optional HP Sport (Akrapovic) Sport silencer.

Optional HP Sport (Akrapovic) Sport Silencer

With the ignition on, the new 6.5in TFT display comes to life and after its initial splash screens the standard extremely clear and easy to read default display sits ready for your viewing pleasure and, use via the new Multi-Function or Jog Wheel controller now part of the left switchgear grouping on the handlebar; do I like being spoiled, yes.

During a short warm-up, all the switch-gear, pedals, and mirrors were further inspected and adjusted as needed; quality and feel are first-rate, everything is placed in familiar ergonomically positions and works as expected.

A slight push down on the shifter brings about a slight snick and jump for first gear, but after that, it is all smooth – whether with the more stock 750 GS model or the F 850 GS equipped with the Shift Assist Pro feature.

The first few blocks of crawling at low speed in traffic around town serve to confirm that the new F 850 GS (and its 750 sibling) are among the most nimble and well-balanced motorcycles I have ever ridden; none of the increased weight nor its distribution is felt.

The F 850 GS hauls. Once the tach clears a low RPM stumble (not observed on the F 750 GS) output and mapping of the new engine is readily discernible – arm straightening pull and a rush of speed, no muss, no fuss, just big smiles.

With tractor-like pulling power and long legs, the revised power plant is best displayed in dialing up some throttle and exercising the Shift Assist Pro. Upshifts are seamless and downshift only slightly more noticeable, although like the versions on our 2017 and 2018 R 1200 GS Rallye machines the feature works best when used from second and up and back down.

Toggling between the Road, Enduro and Enduro Pro modes is a fun and discernible exercise while running our poorly maintained city roads, out into the countryside, and then on to some hard pack gravel and dirt roads while transitioning between stretches of pavement.

As with the big GS machines, Dynamic Mode on the F 850 GS Rallye handles road and varied riding conditions with ease although the F 850 GS feels different in all available modes due to its chassis, suspension, handling and weight.

My original F 800 GS and F 800 GSA machines tended to exhibit some high-speed oscillation or twitch (on and off-road), but the F 850 GS with its frame, geometry, and suspension have the 21 inch and 90/90 wheel/tire combination stable at all speeds and on all surfaces traveled on for this review.

And even given the limited amount of time spent in transitioning onto and between road surfaces, the vertical twin GS feels very much like the Tiger 800Xca with its strong frame, stable handling, and compliant WP suspension.

The stock (skinny) road pegs on the demo Rallye were fine for this initial ride review, but as most of my riding is a mix of on and off-road with some touring thrown in, optional Enduro foot pegs or something similar will be needed.

With the narrow road pegs, standing up wasn’t as comfortable for the feet and like the F 800 GSA, another 15 to 20mm in bar height would be good for prolonged off-road riding.

But overall and for most other riding conditions, the layout of the handlebars, mirrors, pegs, and seat make for good ergonomics and visibility, at least for my build.

Many riders complained about the mirrors on the F-series motorcycles, but it never was an issue with me once the proper positioning is found and the mirrors on the F850GS are good to the same degree; not that they wouldn’t get changed for something more robust… or more easily replaced.

Like the Tiger 800Xca and the F 800 GSA, however, the left mirror on the F 850 GS is glass smooth while the right mirror is blurred at varying rpm and gear… is there a conspiracy here?

The brakes are as good or better than on previous F-series machines, although they don’t have the same forceful feel found in activating the integrated and assisted brakes on the larger GS machines; you know – that soft brick wall feeling…

Of importance for many is that the back brake, by itself, is well modulated and progressive, providing fine grain use, somewhat impacted depending on the modes in use of course.

And last, but not least, the windscreen. I am a minimalist here – enjoying the feel and flow of air into and through the cockpit. Accordingly, both the small and large (standard) non-adjustable screens (available in tint as well) installed on the 750 and 850 respectively look clean.

Being non-adjustable, a lot of riders will be (possibly) scratching their heads and looking for something else – quickly. Given the simple installation and adjustment solutions used on the bigger R-model machines, this fixed-in-place approach does not make sense, at all.

Now, having made these observations, higher-speed pavement runs were fully enjoyable on either machine and of course, a small spoiler style windscreen works well for many off-road environments, especially in warm-hot climates.

This initial ride was just that and I have no doubts that a longer-term review or ownership experience will put other things on the table to be dealt with; part of the fun in fitting the machine to the rider (or vice versa).

Seat Comfort

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye seat cushion

Since SHAD started making most (or all) of the BMW Motorrad OE and optional seats for Beemers I have been far less inclined to change seats during the ownership experiences – acknowledging that we are all unique in our requirements.

The first ride on the standard seat was comfortable for about three hours, then a couple of pressure points could be felt, but a photo stop provided the break, and some needed stretch n flex exercises. Bottom line – there is enough flat real estate and wiggle room to allow movement and allow seated flexing exercises.

While the stock seat is pretty good, once the ownership experience begins, one option to be pursued is the flat Rallye seat (seat height of 890mm and step length of 1980mm) as its shape and deck-style layout allows lots of movement – sitting or standing.

Another slightly higher option from stock is the Comfort Seat (seat height of 875 and step length of 1950mm). An earlier version used on my 2014 F 800 GSA was excellent for day-in/day-out travel, although needing a bit more cut out at the rear for larger/taller riders.

LED Lighting

Finally, the F-series GS machines get full LED lighting with a standard LED headlight for low and high beam and rear tail/brake (with dynamic?) light. LED signal lights and the distinctive daytime running light are optional items.

Controls, Display, & Electronics

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye display

As stated earlier, all the basic controls fall readily to hand, or foot, without major observation, less the skinny road pegs.

As expected, given its showpiece status and subsequent fleet demo use this Rallye was equipped with (all) of the optional equipment packages. And less one or two specific enduro-oriented pieces, this configuration is the one I have on the pending order sheet.

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye TFT display

Two of the most visual and useful additions are the 6.5 in TFT display and the left handlebar-mounted Multi-Function Controller or Jog Wheel. The Jog Wheel provides an intuitive and safe interaction with the TFT display menus and equal ease of interaction with a mounted BMW Navigator V or VI device.

And with the latest TFT firmware release loaded onto the system, additional features and enhancements to the navigation feature available when using a paired smart-device is now available.

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye TFT display onboard computer

I would be remiss in not admitting that the (smaller) TFT display and (very) well-thought-out but multiple digital input controls on the Tiger 800Xca including its nifty joystick controller is an easy to read and easy to use feature although with one or two niggling setting limitations.

But in ‘borrowing’ the 2018 R 1200 GS low frame Rallye from the home fleet with its TFT, Jog Wheel and Navigator cradle, the Motorrad combination reveals just much more can be realized by the user in an integrated cockpit environment; with more to follow.

For the most part, this same level of technology with features is now provided on the new F-series machines, including cruise control; it is a most welcome upgrade to the little GS machines.

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye left handlebar nacelle & buttons

Depending on the installed packages (standard or optional), the left and right handlebar nacelles provide the rider a whole lot of customization for individual riding environments and most of the features can be set ‘n forget or dynamically managed on the fly.

2019 BMW F850GS Rallye right handlebar nacelle & buttons

First Ride Deliberations & Verdict

As a way of qualification, this review is based on one initial ride of about five hours and then two more one-hour demo run trips on the F 850 GS Rallye and F 750 GS the following day; just enough time and exposure to start gathering data and processing it…

However, based on getting some extended riding time on the F 850 GS Rallye variant, it is (as I knew it would be) the model for me – it fits, almost like the proverbial glove and just like the original F 800 GS and later F 800 GSA did.

My attraction to and ownership of mid-size machines has never really waned over the decades and riding the F 850 GS Rallye served to rekindle the relationship.

And while this first ride is about the F 850 GS Rallye, the F 750 GS model cannot and should not be overlooked – I agree with many others who have used both, in that the F 750 GS is an excellent replacement for the original F 650 and current F 700 models.

So, no formal Pro and Con table here yet or encompassing summations – we’ll reserve those for what we hope will be a Part II Follow-on, either facilitated with a longer-term loan of the F 850 GS Rallye if it can be coordinated or, actual ownership.

And yes, my dilemma continues. Stay tuned.

F 850 GS General Specifications & Configurations

General Information

  • Manufacturer: BMW Motorrad
  • Price: Current Motorrad Canada MSRP $14,550 CAD (base pricing), Rallye variant has most of the optional packages installed, so pricing will change accordingly, all subject to confirmation
  • Made In: Germany – to be confirmed…
  • Alternative Models & Colours: Racing Red, Exclusive in Pollux Metallic Matt and Rally in Light White/Lupin Blue Metallic
  • Review Date: September 2018

Specifications

  • Engine Displacement – 853 cc
  • Engine Type – In-line 2-cylinder, liquid cooled
  • Horsepower – 95 hp
  • Transmission – 6 speed
  • Wet Weight – 229 kg (504 lbs)
  • Seat Height – 860 mm (33.8 in)
  • Fuel Capacity (incl Res) – 15L (3.3 Imp Gal and 3.96 US Gal)
  • Maintenance – Service Intervals of 10,000 km / 12 mo, Valve Clearance Checks – 20,000 km

The current (initial) offerings from Motorrad Canada identify three F 850 GS variants – Racing Red, Pollux Metallic Matt (Exclusive) and Light White (Rallye).

Standard equipment on all models includes ABS brakes, automatic stability control (ASC), On-Board Computer Pro, Rain, and Road ride modes, heated grips and a DIN power socket.

Available Factory Options Listing

  • LED Headlights
  • Keyless Ride
  • HP Sports Silencer
  • Preparation for GPS Device
  • Lowering Kit
  • Tire Pressure Control
  • Cruise Control
  • Anti-Theft Alarm System
  • Off-Road Tire
  • Luggage Rack and Luggage Brackets
  • Connectivity – 6.5in TFT Display
  • Low Seat – 835mm (32.8in), and
  • Comfort Black Seat – 875mm (34.5in)

Available Factory Packages

  • Comfort Package – Keyless Ride, Tire Pressure Control and Centre Stand
  • Touring Package – Dynamic ESA, Cruise Control, Luggage rack, and Luggage brackets
  • Lowering Kit – provides Cruise Control along with Luggage Rack and Luggage Brackets, but without Dynamic ESA
  • Dynamic Package – Dynamic Traction Control, Gear Shift Assistant Pro, Ride Modes Pro, ABS Pro
  • Exclusive Package – Pollux Metallic Matt, Hand Protectors, Galvanized Radiator Cover with GS Logo, Tape in Black Matt and White Aluminum Metallic, Gold Anodized Fork Tubes
  • Rallye Package – Light White/Racing Red/Lupin Blue Metallic, Hand Protectors, Galvanized Radiator Covers with GS Logo, Cross Spoke Wheels with Gold Anodized Rims

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The 2017 BMW K1600GTL, quite possibly the world's best luxury touring motorcycle

BMW recently unveiled the 2017-spec K1600GTL at the EICMA, in Milan. The bike's 6-cylinder, xxcc engine has been updated and is now Euro 4-compliant, while still producing an impressive 160 horsepower and 175Nm of torque. Wind protection has been improved, with enlarged slipstream deflectors and trim sections repositioned further to the rear. The upright riding position has also been revised and is now even more relaxed, with handlebars shifted further back and slightly lower footrests. Electronically adjustable dynamic ESA suspension, ABS and traction control are all standard, of course, while reverse assist and shift assistant pro (which allows clutchless upshifts and downshifts) are optional. Redesigned rear-view mirrors now have enlarged mirror areas with an aspherical section for a further enhanced view of traffic, while the foot guard and storage compartment (on the left and right in the lower area of the engine) are now standard features.

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